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Laura Didyk's avatar

I couldn't quite keep up tonight in terms of getting my hand raised in time to contribute to a certain line of discussion, but as usual, I found myself appreciating the book even more than I already did by the time we closed.

Some thoughts I had during the discussion:

—often when poetry isn't immediately lyrical/musical (in the way we tend to think of Poetry), it's easy to dismiss it or describe it as "detached" but I think here, while it definitely has a detached atmosphere, it feels so purposeful that it's almost intimate, as if the speaker is showing us something about her and her inner life by doing so.

—related to that, she reserved her level of detail for the sections that were about the installations and performances, describing, as someone mentioned, in an ekphrastic way, almost pure description, while also sharing with us, as if a museum tour guide, some of the historical backgrounds of the artist and/or the pieces themselves. She forges relationship with the reader this way, I think, like she wants to say: look, look at what I can't stop looking at, or thinking about.

—the most intimate things in her life we only get bits of, as talked about in class, her mother's death, her boyfriend's illness (is it physical or psychological/mental, or both? is one causing the other?); in that way that what we notice says so much about who we are as creatures/human, the relaying of information, in that journalistic sense, is almost a kindness. By creating a clear image, she's allowing us to soak in the "facts" of it all.

—the little haunts we get of her mother's death and Chris's illness (two of the several personal threads just as examples) carry so much more emotion as they permeate the scenes/poems that come after and accumulate as we go forward

—in that way, I think there is an arc, or maybe a kind of circular one or a spiral (not a downward one)

—a note on the reading experience: I found myself reading each poem with all the accumulation that came before it, while also trying to imagine that I'd come upon the poem without having read any of the others (though she does call it, in the McSweeney's conversation, a book-length poem). It was interesting to frame the poems that way; some held up more than others.

—and, lastly, her withholding of personal information, the elusive way she referred to her partner and other people in her life, even her Jewishness and her Alaska-ness, is what pulled me through the book... wanting more reveal, and there's always a little tiny bit more.

Looking forward to next book,

LD

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A poem I'm sharing based on the prompts Sean gave us off of the Mannheimer book.

PUTTING MY POEM INSPIRED BY THE MANNHEIMER PROMPT HERE (SEAN, PLEASE MOVE IT IF THIS ISN’T THE RIGHT SPOT! AND FELLOW GROUP MEMBERS, I WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK AND PLEASE POST YOUR OWN WORK TOO!)

Lake Owasso

The forked road ended where the railroad went

closer to Canada than the Gulf,

marshy enough for herons and gulls.

From their inlet, it would open to a larger lake

fed by invisible streams.

Their coffee was so lousy you had to bring your own supplies,

and then again mom liked too much mayonnaise

in her spreads at cocktail hour eighty pounds ago when she liked to eat.

Why would anyone share their feelings like that, dad asked me last time

when What Can Be Held Briefly came up.

You could go out on their porch in the summer

until the mosquitoes came out

and watch John throw sticks for Lena to fetch

or as Bud did before he died—

wrecking the plans for tending to mom while dad napped.

Through long and drifting winters, with snowplows and shovels,

Bud would have been there and take mom shopping.

He kept his own company, dog, hotplate, TV,

even as he whispered about world revolution,

what with Karen and John down the stairs and all, leading.

Karen always cared so much for the helpless.

I always wondered how to manage silence.

The lake was nearly always calm,

especially at dusk.

Lena adjusted like the waves

that churn up so briefly and then subside.

–Diane L. Redleaf, posted 10-7-22

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