The Sharpener

The Sharpener

Share this post

The Sharpener
The Sharpener
Writing Problems: the collective we

Writing Problems: the collective we

Sean Singer's avatar
Sean Singer
Dec 28, 2024
∙ Paid
16

Share this post

The Sharpener
The Sharpener
Writing Problems: the collective we
5
4
Share

The collective we is one of the most common craft issues I see in manuscripts I work on through my editorial services. In general I find the collective we annoying, imprecise, and misused.

E.g.:

“We come and go like leaves”

“We humans are stuck”

“We were born in a garden”

“We are left in dust”

An argument can be made that since poetry, according to Octavio Paz, exists between “solitude and communion” that the speaker in a poem transcends the self into something more spacious, more collective, and that the plural first pronoun can be accurate.

The collective we in most examples I see in people’s manuscripts is intended to convey a moral or emotional weightiness, an identification with groups larger than the speaker themselves, or to lessen the discomfort between the speaker and the poet.

The simplest literary fix is to make all the instances of plural first person into singular first person, I. Since a person can be stuck, or be like a leaf, the comparison becomes manageable and can expand expectations. (Getting rid of we also includes “everybody” and “all.”)

One danger of the collective we in a poem is that it actually weakens the speaker’s authority. The speaker is now washed away in a collective, and their psychic position is subsumed by some larger group, but it’s amorphous, nonspecific, and becomes impossible to engage. It’s a big human Petri dish of me, you, them, everyone walking around the neighborhood.

Keep reading with a 7-day free trial

Subscribe to The Sharpener to keep reading this post and get 7 days of free access to the full post archives.

Already a paid subscriber? Sign in
© 2025 Sean Singer
Privacy ∙ Terms ∙ Collection notice
Start writingGet the app
Substack is the home for great culture

Share